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Zigge05
2014-03-11, 12:49
Hur skapar man mix-/ar i en Spektrum DX7s så jag får bra luftbromsar (skev upp/flaps ner) vid landning? Det kallas visst CROW alt BUTTERFLY.

Tack på förhand,
Anders

pgrts
2014-03-11, 20:43
har du inte sd-kort?
Enklast är att ladda ner en konfiguration för exempelvis Radian Pro som har 4 vingservon.
Det finns nog två minst konfigar - en som har bromsen på trottelkanalen som seglare normalt har eller någon konfig där det är fasta lägen för bromsen.

Har du sedan andra typer av servon så bör det ju gå att reversera kanalerna så att det funkar.

Zigge05
2014-03-12, 15:55
Tack för hjälpen. PDF hittar jag men ingen fil att ladda ner!

jocke1963
2014-03-12, 17:56
Har du konto på http://www.spektrumrc.com/ ?
Om inte skaffa det, gratis, så kan du ladda ner förkonfigurerade filer till radion.
Torde väl funka till DX7:an oxå...?

Såhär står det om två av de filerna till min DX8:

"Radian Pro DX8 Setup
This setup allows for full use of the capabilities of the Radian Pro. These setting are provided as a baseline setup only allowing you to build a setup to meet your specific model’s needs. The values and reverse settings for your model will differ and must be carefully adjusted and tested before flying.

The setup listed has the flaps operated by the 3-position FLAP switch. The gear switch activates CROW. If the flaps are in the full down position and the gear switch is flipped, the CROW will become active, but only when the flap switch is in the full flap position. The AUX2 switch controls the reflex and camber of the wing."

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DX-8 Sailplane Setup
The DX8 is designed to support airplanes and helicopters with sophisticated programming functions and features. Several pilots have requested programming information for full functioning sailplanes and while the DX8 does not have sailplane specific programming, by utilizing the eight available programmable mixes in Airplane mode, the DX8 can be programmed to accommodate most sailplane functions. A sailplane base-line program is now available that can be transferred to your DX8’s model memory using an SD card that provides base programming for a 6-channel sailplane with 4-servo wing offering the following functions:


Three flight modes-(position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
Adjustable camber- in cruise mode via the rotary knob
Independent trims in each flight mode- ideal for optimizing elevator trim settings per flight mode
Independent differential- adjustment in each flight mode
Crow/ Butterfly mix- Flaps down and ailerons up on the throttle stick programmed to cruise and reflex flight modes
Elevator compensation- (linear only) mixed to Crow/ Butterfly in cruise and reflex modes
Aileron to flaps- in all flight modes provide full span ailerons
Elevator to flaps- in cruise and reflex modes
Aileron to rudder- assigned to turn on/ off with the gear switch
Throttle stick warning- when turning on the transmitter and the stick is not in the high position

Important- The provided setting on the SD card are the actual setup parameters (reversing directions, travel values, etc.) for a specific model. These setting are provided as a baseline setup only allowing you to build a setup to meet your specific model’s needs. The values and reverse settings for your model will differ and must be carefully adjusted and tested before flying.
Note: It’s recommended that this model program be stored as model #30 in your DX8 and then copied to the intended model that you wish to use. This will allow recopy to other models and have reference to the base model program if/ when needed even at the field.


Preparing Your DX8 transmitter


Download the model (6ch Glider) from your computer to an SD card
Insert the SD card into your DX8
In system setup mode, use the Select Model function to select the model number you wish to use for the model (we recommend Model #30)
While still in system setup mode enter the Transfer SD Card screen
Under Options roll the roller until Import Model appears
Highlight 6ch Glider, and then press the roller. The model will be transferred to the model memory that your DX8 is currently in. (Recommend to store in Model #30)
Transfer the 6ch Glider program to the desired model memory that you wish to use and enter that model memory.


Transmitter Functions
Before getting started it’s important to identify the switches and sticks that are used and how they function:


Throttle Stick- Starts in the up position, Used to activate Crow/ Butterfly braking in Cruise and Reflex modes. Note warning if stick is in low position when transmitter is turned on.
Elevator stick- Provides normal elevator operation that is mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes.
Aileron stick- Provides normal roll operation mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes and mixed to rudder when the gear switch is activated
Rudder stick- normal operation
Flight Mode Switch- Selects the three flight modes (position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
Gear Switch- Turns on/ off the aileron to rudder mixing (forward = On)
Aux 3 Knob- Adjust Camber in Cruise mode only
Trims- Separate trim setting are automatically stored for each flight mode
Timer Button- A 5:00 minute up-timer is programmed to start when the Trainer button is pressed


Basic Setup Procedures

Preparing Your Sailplane
Step #1- Install the servos leads in the receiver
A 7-channel or greater receiver is needed. Plug the servo leads into the following ports in the receiver:


Receiver Port

Servo


Throttle
Not used


Aileron
Right Aileron


Elevator
Elevator


Rudder
Rudder


Gear
Left Flap


Aux1
Left Aileron


Aux2
Right Flap


Aux3
Not used



Step #2- Bind the receiver
Step #3 Servo reversing- Adjust all channels servo reversing to the correct direction
Step #4- In flap system with the flight mode switch in the middle position (1) cruise adjust the mid flap value to neutralize the flaps.
Step #5- Adjust sub trim on all channels
Step #6- In flap system adjust all three preset flap settings (reflex, cruise and launch)
Step #7- Use the following mixes to adjust the remaining mix functions:
ELE > FLP- active in Cruise and Reflex mode adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.
AIL > RUD- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, Adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.
Mix 1 THR> RFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,
This mix is used to adjust the flap travel amount and direction when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.
Mix 2 THR> LAL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,
This mix is used to adjust the ailerons travel amount and direction (usually up) when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.
Mix 3 AIL> LFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,
This mix is used to adjust the ailerons to flap mix for full trailing edge ailerons. Travel amount and direction is adjusted here. Mix 4 KNB> RFL- active in Cruise mode only, adjusts the flap camber when the knob is rotated in cruises mode only. Note the offset of 90% so the value is adjusted in one direction normally to add camber for thermal mode.
Mix 5 THR> ELE- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, provides elevator compensation when crow is activated. Note 90% offset to match crow mix input.
Mix 6 AX3> LAL- Always On, This mix is used to adjust the ailerons up or down when the flight mode is switched from launch, cruise and reflex.
Note: this program does not employ dual rate, differential, or Expo settings as these are personal preferences and are adjusted per the airplane and pilots desires. Adjust these values per your preference.

Tips and Comments


Sailplane pilots have personal preferences as to functionality, switch locations, etc. This program provides a baseline to get started but the DX8 allows the versatility to move switches and change functions as desired. Please feel free to experiment but understand that this is an airplane program that offers a high level of functionality and was not designed for sailplane specific functions.
Note that in order to allow mix #6 above to operate it was necessary to program the Flight Mode switch to Aux 3 channel in the Switch Select screen. If moving the flight mode functions to another position it will be necessary to reassign this new switch to the Aux 3.
The DX8 features backward mixing. If a master is mixed to the right (primary channel) like right aileron, the slave will operate both ailerons as an ailerons. If a master is mixed to a slave channel like the left aileron, the ailerons will operate up and down as flaperons. Understanding the backwards mix function will allow tremendous options when doing complex mixes.
Electric Motor use- This program does not incorporate a powered sailplane. In order to add an electric motor one of the P-mixes will need to be reprogrammed to operate the motor function. Typical Mix #6 will be eliminated and the trainer timer button will be assigned to operate the motor in the Aux 3 channel. The timer can be programmed to Aux3 in the Switch select screen.


Download (http://www.spektrumrc.com/DownLoad/Files/DBDownLoad.ashx?fkid=9&ftc=ModelConfig&fn=6ch_Glider.SPM)

Zigge05
2014-03-12, 18:13
Tack för tipset. Fixar konto!

Zigge05
2014-03-12, 18:22
Finns ingen färdig setup för DX7s och Radian Pro på www.spektrumrc.com/ (http://www.spektrumrc.com/) Undrar vad som skiljer? Jag får väl skapa MIXARNA enl PDF-filen manuellt!

Zigge05
2014-03-13, 11:13
Jag var tyvärr inte riktigt tydlig! Det är en elseglare, Albatrs 3.0 från Topmodel.cz, som jag skall skapa setup för, framförallt camber och crow.